Michael and Russell are discussing the incredible impact of men's immersions. They talk about how these three-and-a-half-day experiences are designed to push men beyond their comfort zones, helping them confront and overcome deep-seated fears and emotional barriers. Michael and Russell explain the importance of brotherhood and the unique bond formed among men who face these intense challenges together. They discuss how these immersions serve as a modern rite of passage, helping men go from a state of avoidance and superficiality to one of authenticity and accountability. Michael and Russell also have a conversation around the concept of "trial by combat" and the liberation that comes from facing physical and emotional
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