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Dr Calum Carson (Leeds University Business School) and Daniel Howard (Living Wage Foundation) talk about the distinction between the National Living Wage and the Real Living Wage, why employers decide to become Living Wage employers, and what else affects in-work poverty. 

Find out more about the Living Wage Foundation by visiting the website www.livingwage.org.uk 

This podcast episode was recorded remotely in March 2021. If you would like to get in touch regarding this podcast, please contact research.lubs@leeds.ac.uk. A transcript of this episode is available.

About the speakers: Dr Calum Carson is an academic researcher at Leeds University Business School, having recently completed a PhD on the Real Living Wage. He is also a Labour Market and Policy Research Officer at the Employment Related Services Association (ESRA). 

Daniel Howard is a Programme Manager for the Living Wage Foundation’s “Living Hours” campaign, which seeks to guarantee workers an adequate number of regular hours alongside receiving Living Wage rates of pay. He has previous research and policy experience at the Joseph Rowntree Foundation in York and at the Department for Work and Pensions in Leeds.