What happens when a combat spy becomes a master conversationalist? Pete A Turner's journey from Army counterintelligence agent to podcast host reveals the surprising connection between gathering intel in war zones and building trust behind the microphone. In this eye-opening conversation, Pete shares how his military training taught him to understand "ground truth" – the reality people actually live in, not the version we think they should accept. Discover why the best leaders talk less, how small wins create massive impact, and the Afghan governor's wisdom that changed Pete's entire approach to leadership: "There's only room for one sword in the scabbard."
00:00 From Combat Spy to Conversation Master
02:00 Learning Counterintelligence as Trust-Building
06:00 Ground Truth: Why Reality Matters More Than Facts
13:00 Spy Techniques for Calming Nervous Guests
22:00 No Prep Needed: Meeting People Cold
32:00 Using Podcasts as Networking Machines
36:00 The Sword Lesson: When Leaders Step Back
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