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This week, Thomas sits down with acclaimed essayist, author, and speaker Pico Iyer to discuss travel and writing as meditative practices, the spiritual power of stillness and quiet, and how creative work generates a sense of agency in a chaotic world.

Pico shares incredible anecdotes from his international travels, many monastic retreats, decades of journeys with the Dalai Lama, and intimate time spent with beloved musician and Buddhist Leonard Cohen.

It’s an uplifting conversation on how to pull inspiration from impermanence and see personal challenges as opportunities for transformation and liberation.

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✨ Pico Iyer is the author of 17 books of fiction and nonfiction, translated into 23 languages, on subjects ranging from globalism and mysticism to the Dalai Lama. He is a longtime essayist for Time, The New York Times, and over 250 publications worldwide. Born in Oxford to Indian parents, he was educated at Eton, Oxford, and Harvard, and has lived in Japan since 1987.

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Thomas HΓΌbl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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