In episode 69 of the Art of We podcast, hosts Krista and Dr. Will Van Derveer focus on the critical distinctions between codependency and interdependency. The conversation highlights how codependency often stems from good intentions but leads to disempowerment and stuckness within relationships, especially when one partner enables the other.
By contrast, interdependency is presented as a healthier model that fosters mutual responsibility, freedom, and empowerment, supporting a more evolved partnership. Through personal anecdotes and theoretical insights, the hosts explore how individuals can inadvertently fall into patterns of distorted masculine and feminine energies, which contribute to the cycle of codependency.
In this episode the host’s share their experience with both codependency and interdependency, and how to navigate challenging patterns that often manifest as a fear of engulfment or abandonment. The dialogue encourages listeners to reflect on their own relationships, identifying areas where they might be leaning too heavily towards codependency and exploring ways to cultivate a more interdependent, mutually responsible, balanced and fulfilling partnership.
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