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Unlocking People Power: Why Training Is the Ultimate Team Advantage. What really keeps top performers loyal—and how do managers move beyond “widgets and cogs” to see their teams as humans first? In this energizing episode of the Learnit Lounge podcast, host Mickey Fitch-Collins, PhD sits down with David Styers—veteran leadership developer and Director of Learning & Leadership Programs at the League of American Orchestras—to tackle one of the toughest realities in HR and L&D: how to get managers to truly prioritize training for their teams. 

From busting stubborn myths to sharing actionable ways to get development on the agenda (and in the budget), this episode will change the way you think about learning at work. David draws on 30+ years of experience, sharing stories about human-centered leadership, cohort learning, and the power of “stay interviews” to drive retention and culture. 

Whether you’re a manager, solo HR pro, or lifelong learner, you’ll walk away with fresh tactics and inspiration for making professional growth a strategic focus—no matter your industry. 

In this episode, you’ll learn: 

Timestamps: 

00:49 – Why convincing managers to prioritize training is an evergreen challenge 

03:25 – Common myths about the value, cost, and time required for training 

04:54 – Recruitment, retention, and recognition: Training as a people-centric tool 

06:15 – Moving from “widget” thinking to a human-centered workplace 

07:07 – How to bake professional development into job descriptions and budgets 

09:03 – Creating a continuous feedback and training cycle 

10:00 – Overcoming the “no time” objection—and creative ways to fit learning in 

12:28 – The power of “stay interviews” vs. exit interviews 

13:40 – Redefining what counts as learning (articles, podcasts, workshops, etc.) 

14:49 – The importance of post-training reflection and follow-through 

15:33 – Team strategy: Customizing, cohorting, and building connection through group learning 

18:24 – Training as a retention tool: The link between relationships and engagement 

19:44 – How to make your business case for development—and prepare for tough conversations 

22:27 – Proactively using professional development funds before they disappear 

25:55 – Addressing manager fears about losing talent due to growth 

28:13 – The most significant leadership lesson David has learned 

29:55 – The uncomfortable truth: Who gets access to leadership development and why 

32:03 – Connect with David Sayers on LinkedIn 

About David Styers 

David Styers is the Director of Learning and Leadership Programs at the League of American Orchestras, based in New York City. With over three decades at the forefront of executive and civic engagement, David’s career spans nonprofit, government, and corporate sectors—including roles as Managing Director for Ascent Leadership Networks and Director of Learning & Development at the Presidio Trust. He specializes in design thinking (University of...