This episode of the Venus & Vesta podcast, features the deeper meaning to America's Pluto’s return and why it will keep forcing evolution, even revolution through to next year.
The key dates for Pluto hitting this point go through to January 2024
Ann-Louise goes into detail about thenhistory of the Pluto return, since Rome was really the only empire to truly experience its cataclysmic effects. She then asks where does Pluto go on to next and how are we going to cope with it all?
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- A return is when a planet comes all the way round the zodiac to where it was when you were born. America was born on the 4th July 1776 and Pluto was in Capricorn, it’s taken 246 years to go all the way around the zodiac – we call it a generational planet, even though it’s now a dwarf planet. It stays in each sign between 10 and 25 years so it’s felt by everyone in that generation.
- Pluto was discovered in 1930 by an American and opened a real Pandora’s Box. In the 1930s we had the rise of fascism, the threat of communism, huge global depression, which was felt mostly by America – or at least most of the tales told of the depression came out of America. America suffered more because of the Dust Bowl Famine where people died and families were decimated. When it was discovered Pluto was in Cancer, it’s now in Capricorn for America’s birth chart.
- The birth chart of a country is "mundane astrology", meaning 'mundial' or 'mundo' ie: 'of the world', so places, organisations and world events. People do not have a Pluto returns as we do not live that long, but countries do, and America is the only country in the modern era to have a Pluto return.
- Capricorn is about success, structures that run lives, the grand hierarchy of things: business, business leaders, the patriarchy, the rulers, the governance and the ruling elite, our bosses, our careers, what we do for money, what goals we set ourselves. This is why America is a meritocracy where you can achieve anything and be successful (so it’s said) more so than in any other county. Now we have to look at the rot in these structures, what corruption, what is wrong, what’s really going on underneath that compost bucket of America.
- The Roman Empire only lasted 2 Pluto Returns (around 500 years) with the abdication of Augustus which happened 9 years after the second Pluto return. That shows the effects of Pluto, it’ll show you what’s going on and bring out the effects from under the shadow and once you’ve brought it out, how do you put it all back in again? You have to pick up the pieces and make something new. Hopefully we won’t go through 50 years of civil war, like Rome, but there definitely is a collapse of the economy in some shape or form. We're in the middle of it now and I think there is going to be more of that. The whole Western world has to move, evolve or face destruction.
BEST MOMENTS
Pluto is so slow moving and its actions are so deep that we have to evolve and move with it. Pluto is concerned with the inside and how we’re evolving inside.’
‘Pluto is the dark lord of the underworld, he is the master of all things hidden and secret.’
‘It asks you to evolve or die, evolve or cast it away, change it or move on.’
‘If all men are free to prosper in America, how come it’s only the top 1-2% that are really, really prospering? There’s enough money for everyone to prosper. The ideals need to change.’
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