Author of the legendary best-seller “Why We Buy”, founder of retail design consulting firm Envirosell, and food system futurist Paco Underhill talks with Ramsey about what has never changed and what will never be the same again after COVID; how food production and distribution are returning to being local; and how packaging can be part of the environmental solution instead of a solid waste problem. We also hear some personal reflections on their family, faith and motivations and how that drives their actions; and what sauces and side dishes go best with Korean Corndogs.
