A conversation with Bishop Todd Hunter on the conclusion of Soong-Chan Rah’s book Prophetic Lament: A Call for Justice in Troubled Times, our C4SO Reads book for Lent. Todd talks about the pandemic moving him from a cognitive acknowledgment that “the full range of human emotion is expressed in the Psalms” to an embodied, emotional connection to lament as he prayed the Psalms this past year. We also discuss the connection between lament and joy, and the trouble we get into when we try and bifurcate them into separate, unrelated experiences.