Follow-up: Two great listeners challenge Gomer's previous assertion that Fr. James Martin is corrupting the faith by falsely accommodating the moral teachings of the Church to win LGBT+ souls for Christ. They assert that he isn't respecting 'gradualism' for the sake of the 'heroic ideal.' Gomer asserts that's Lutheran, not Catholic.
Luke vents about the National Dialogue on Young Adult ministries, and how much he hates this stuff. Surveys?! How dare you? Gomer asks Luke then how do you know what people are saying and thinking about this stuff unless you ask, survey, etc.? Luke: "It reaks of 'we have nothing else to do'."
If you haven't read through "Rejoice and Be Glad" by Pope Francis, you are truly missing out. Amidst the loud noises of McCarrick-Vigano, etc., we still need to realize that Pope Francis has got some really, really good stuff. [Gaudete et Exsultate](http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apostexhortations/documents/papa-francescoesortazione-ap20180319gaudete-et-exsultate.html#REJOICEANDBEGLAD)_ is some good stuff.