Panelists
Matt Broberg | Nicole Huesman | Foundjem Armstrong
Guests
Mary Thengvall (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/mary-thengvall)
Show Notes
[00:01:48] Mary tells us all about herself and her job.
[00:03:05] We find out from Mary what DevRel is.
[00:05:20] Nicole asks Mary to talk the DevRel position being such a unique position and often people may want to apply traditional marketing metrics to the role and sometimes that doesn’t really work, so she explains why.
[00:11:17] Matt wants to know how Mary handles the organization that is so used to trying to build these metaphorical engines everywhere and how do you try to explain DevRel from a data perspective if you don’t have the same easy metaphor available to you. She brings up the “Orbit Model.”
[00:17:53] Armstrong asks Mary if this is a different kind of MetaMetrics that captures different forms of metrics and tries to present it to a different audience.
[00:22:17] Mary tells us her thoughts on the whole notion of the unintended consequences of metrics or measurement, which is always a hot topic.
[00:29:06] We learn how management measures Mary’s success and how does she evaluate her performance.
[00:32:10] Mary tells us what she would like to see from the CHAOSS Project and how does she see the CHAOSS Project being helpful from a DevRel perspective.
Picks
[00:35:08] Mary has two picks: a book called, Working in Public, _by Nadia Eghbal and a video game, _Horizon Zero Dawn.
[00:36:53 Armstrong’s pick is Ordy cartoon.
[00:37:38] Nicole has two picks: I AM C-3PO and A Famous Dog’s Life (Audiobooks).
[00:38:48] Matt’s pick is the research of George Lakoff and his book, _Metaphors We Live By. _
Sponsor
Honeybadger (https://www.honeybadger.io/)
Links
CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/)
CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en)
Mary Thengvall Website/Blog (https://www.marythengvall.com/)
Mary Thengvall Twitter (https://twitter.com/mary_grace?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
Mary Thengvall Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/candidcrafts)
Camunda (https://camunda.com/)
The Business Value of Developer Relations by Mary Thengvall (https://www.persea-consulting.com/book)
The Orbit Model-GitHub (https://github.com/orbit-love/orbit-model)
“DevRel Qualified Leads: Repurposing A Common Business Metric To Prove Value,” by Mary Thengvall (https://www.marythengvall.com/blog/2019/12/14/devrel-qualified-leads-repurposing-a-common-business-metrics-to-prove-value)
Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/Working-Public-Making-Maintenance-Software/dp/0578675862)
[Horizon Zero Dawn-Steam](https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151640/HorizonZeroDawnCompleteEdition/)
Ordy Cartoon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%ABmu_Iro_Iro_Yume_no_Tabi)
[I AM C-3PO (Audiobook)](https://www.amazon.com/I-Am-C-3PO-Anthony-Daniels-JJ-Abrams/dp/B07YSWW72T/ref=tmmaudswatch0?encoding=UTF8&qid=1600285679&sr=8-1-spons)
[A Famous Dog’s Life (Audiobook)](https://www.amazon.com/Famous-Dogs-Life-Americas-Chihuahua/dp/B00DBD4F2W/ref=sr11?dchild=1&keywords=A+famous+dogs+life&qid=1600285744&s=audible&sr=1-1)
Metaphors We Live By- George Lakoff (https://georgelakoff.com/books/metaphors-we-live-by/)
George Lakoff Website (https://georgelakoff.com/)
Special Guest: Mary Thengvall.
