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We welcome Laura Kuhn, executive director of the John Cage Trust, to discuss the life and legacy of composer John Cage.

“I am most interested in music that doesn’t say anything.” John Cage, 1991

This week’s guest:

• Laura Kuhn, executive director of the John Cage Trust

Show notes:

• The Selected Letters of John Cage


• John Cage Unbound: A Living Archive (New York Public Library)


• Episode #69 – Brian Brandt of Mode Records on John Cage, Morton Feldman, and the Music Business


• Diary: How To Improve The World (You Will Only Make Matters Worse) (1991)


• John Cage / Morton Feldman: Radio Happenings I – V


• John Cage & Morton Feldman Radio Happenings (book and DVD)


• John Cage performing Water Walk on I’ve Got a Secret (1960):










• John Cale on I’ve Got a Secret (1963):










• Mesostics


• Begin Again: A Biography of John Cage


• 4’33” (Wikipedia)


• No Such Thing as Silence: John Cage’s 4’33”


• The Curious Score for John Cage’s “Silent” Zen Composition 4’33”


• 4’33” score


• Freeman Etudes (Books One & Two), Freeman Etudes (Books Three & Four)


• Number Pieces (Wikipedia)


• Ryoanji Drawings



Recommended pieces; Apple Music links:



• String Quartet in Four Parts, Lasalle Quartet


• Sonatas & Interludes for Prepared Piano (first recording by Maro Ajemian)


• 74


• Third Construction


• Cheap Imitation


• Ryoanji

Our next tracks:

• Kirk: ECM playlist


• Doug: Ben Waters: Boogie 4 Stu – A Tribute to Ian Stewart

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