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Marty sits down with Steve Barbour before the first Nakamoto Forum debate to talk about energy, mining, and replacing the US Dollar.

Steve on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SGBarbour

Upstream Data: https://blog.upstreamdata.ca/

7:30 - Bitcoin dev conflict of interest

19:18 - Bitcoin reaching maturity

21:01 - Russian mining

25:37 - Fiat IOUs

28:30 - The state of US mining

34:25 - Will "Coal" Cole

38:09 - Upstream's progress since Steve's last pod

47:06 - Hydro is better for portability

55:31 - New design

59:53 - Is coal the future?

1:04:48 - Hydrocarbons debate

1:08:33 - Lizard men

1:10:57 - Mock the rulers

1:19:03 - Fiat dying

1:25:01 - Wrapping up

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