In the 1660s, two towering thinkers, Thomas Hobbes and Robert Boyle, clashed over a strange new machine: the air pump. What looked like a technical disagreement about air and vacuum quickly became something much larger.
This episode examines how Boyle's experimental approach and Hobbes's philosophical skepticism shaped the foundations of modern science, and why their dispute still echoes today in debates over expertise, public trust, and the role of scientists in public policy. From the invention of "virtual witnessing" to modern struggles with misinformation, this is a story about how facts become believable, and what happens when trust breaks down.
Leviathan and the Air‑Pump - Steven Shapin & Simon Schaffer
New Experiments Physico‑Mechanicall, Touching the Spring of the Air - Robert Boyle
Royal Society - History & motto Nullius in verba
Pew Research Center - Public trust in scientists and policy debates (Nov. 2024 report)
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