In this conversation, Terrie Hellard-Brown and Debra McNinch discuss the challenges parents face in discipling their children, especially when dealing with prodigal children. They emphasize the importance of strategic prayer, community support, and overcoming shame. Debra shares her personal journey and the founding of the Battle Cry Prayer Movement, which aims to support parents in prayer and faith. The discussion also touches on how churches can better support families and the need for a battle plan in prayer. Ultimately, the conversation is filled with encouragement and hope for parents navigating difficult situations with their children.