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In this episode, Mary has a special guest, Ginger McSwain, her mother who is the co-founder of PLACE Ministries with Jay. Mary and Ginger cover so many topics from the birthing of PLACE to an idea to how Ginger has found her PLACE in life and ministry through the principles found in the PLACE tool and principles. Mary and Ginger dive into the power of PLACE when it is used in a coaching session in which Ginger has coached many individuals through the years in finding their PLACE. They end the episode by discussing how knowing your PLACE can be used in church, but just as importantly wherever you are doing life from your college campus to even restaurants. Ginger who is wired so different than Mary and Jay brings an enlightening perspective to finding your PLACE in life and ministry.
