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We need to change the way we think if we want to extend the shelf-life of our civilization, according to Frances Moore Lappé, author of EcoMind: Changing the Way We Think and Diet for a Small Planet. In this 2017 conversation, Lappé explains some of the "thought traps" to avoid in order to effectively inspire transition from what she calls our "economy of destruction." She also explains how democracy is much more than just a form of government; it is an essential part of human nature. Lappé is co-founder of the Small Planet Institute. Respected around the world for her insights into world hunger, democracy and the environment, she has appeared on most major television and cable networks, and is a contributing editor at Yes! Magazine and Solutions Journal. Visit http://www.conversationearth.org for more information, links to her work, and an opportunity to support the non-profit Conversation Earth project.