EPISODE 2:
April 29, 2022 – In this second episode presented by, for, and with United Methodist pastors serving in interim ministry, our Host Bill Kemp is "Looking at Liminal Time" with a panel of veteran intentional interim ministers as they review the book, How to Lead When You Don't Know Where You're Going: Leading in a Liminal Season by Susan Beaumont. This podcast also serves as a preview to the 2022 TIIMSA Virtual Gathering, May 10-11, with the theme of "Leading Through a Liminal Season." Susan will be the keynote speaker at the event. She defines the term, liminality, as "a quality of ambiguity or disorientation that occurs during transition, when a person or group of people is in between something that has ended and something else that is not yet ready to begin." The first of three panelists is Karen Nichols Dungan, an Elder for 36 years in the Iowa Annual Conference who has pastored parishes of varying sizes, contexts and configurations, and served as a District Superintendent and Assistant to the Bishop and became an approved TIIMS in 2020. The second panelist is Jane Sautter, a Retired Elder in the Upper New York Annual Conference. She graduated from the Methodist Theological School in Ohio with a dual degree, MDiv and MTS in Church History. For part of her career, Jane served in a missionary appointment on the Yakama Reservation in White Swan, Washington. Jane has served in two Interim appointments since her retirement and is a Lead Trainer for TIIMS. The third panelist is Keith Head, The Transitional Specialists Podcast Production Coordinator. Whether or not you attend the Gathering, you just might find some key learnings about transitions from this conversation!
To learn more about and register for the annual 2022 Virtual Gathering by Zoom of interim ministers from across the nation on May 10-11, go to https://tiimsa.org/2022-gathering/.