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Reddit Post: https://old.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/103kkjg/zhaozhous_two_hermits/?
Post Summary:
Zhaozhou went to a hermit's place and asked, "Is there? Is there?" The hermit raised his fist. Zhaozhou said, "Where the water is shallow is not the place to moor a ship," and he left. He went to another hermit's place and said, "Is there? Is there?" That hermit also raised his fist. Zhaozhou said, "Able to let go, able to take away; able to kill, able to give life," and then he bowed.
Jiangshan Ai said, "Zhaozhou only sees the sharpness of the awl."
Yunju Shun said, "Zhaozhou was quite spunky at that time, but even so his nose is in the hands of the two hermits."
Zen Teaching: Wumen's Checkpoint, aka The Gateless Barrier (Get the JC Cleary trans)
Post Cast Overview: Two hermits, lots of conversation for 1500 years. Where can you moor a ship? What's another way to say it… Starbucks! Is one hermit just wrong. Is Zhaozhou mistaken. Pushing Down. Turning the Light around.
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