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In this episode of Conversations @ the Salt Line, host Wesley Dixon chats with Vassar alum, author and nonprofit consultant Tom Pyun '99. Wes and Tom dive into his debut novel, "Something Close to Nothing," exploring the conflicts faced by two gay men of color navigating parenthood via surrogacy, career ambition, and American individualism. Their conversation touches on Tom's journey through professional burnout, the healing power of creativity, and the deep influence of his Vassar liberal arts education on the book's nuanced themes of race, class, and gender.