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In this episode of The Things We Know, Kari and Lisa sit down with Dr. Nelva Lee to reflect on how embracing life's turns helped define the path she ultimately built. Nelva reflects on a career spanning healthcare administration, education, entrepreneurship, and community advocacy, and how building systems to support multilingual, immigrant, and underserved communities emerged through lived experience rather than linear planning. She shares how faith has guided her leadership and service, why midlife has become a season of intentional challenge and growth, and how continuing to push herself physically, most recently by running an ultramarathon, feels essential to staying alive and awake to her own life.

To learn more about Dr. Nelva Lee and her work, or to get in touch with her directly, visit DrNelvaLee.com.

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