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In this episode of the Eastmans’ Journal Podcast, Ike Eastman sits down with Sam Mackey—former Navy SEAL and now CEO of Outsider.

Sam dedicated 20 years of his life to military service, and he and Ike dive into some incredible stories from his time in uniform. But the conversation doesn’t stop there. Sam shares how his passion for hunting and the outdoors shaped his next mission—building Outsider, a proudly American lifestyle brand inspired by rugged country, wild places, and the people who love them.

This is a genuine, wide-open conversation that bridges military grit, outdoor adventure, and the entrepreneurial spirit. Whether you’re a hunter, patriot, or just love a good story, you won’t want to miss it.

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