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What if the path to a stable, meaningful, and lucrative career wasn't found in a four year university, but in a hands on craft that's been powering America for more than a century? And what if the biggest productivity hack you're missing is actually mentorship, not better software?

In this episode of the Productivity Smarts Podcast, host Gerald J. Leonard sits down with Terry Iverson, founder of ChampionNow, lifelong manufacturing leader, and author of Finding America's Greatest Champions and Inspiring Champions in Advanced Manufacturing. With his family marking 100 years in manufacturing, Terry brings a refreshing and deeply human perspective on the future of skilled work, productivity, and purpose.

Terry shares how he almost walked away from his family's legacy, the pivotal push that set him on a 45 year manufacturing career, and why he believes the trades are not just viable but essential in the age of AI and global uncertainty. He and Gerald explore the hidden opportunities in modern manufacturing, the return on education that most young adults overlook, and why mindset, curiosity, and integrity matter more than degrees.

From apprenticeship to diversity in the workforce to using ADHD as a superpower, this conversation is packed with practical insights on building a meaningful career, staying productive, and elevating others along the way. It's a timely, inspiring reminder that America still needs makers, mentors, and champions.

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