Red-Pilled Mary Poppins: Unveiling Truths in Children's Literature
In this episode of For the Love of Freedom, Danielle welcomes Julie Lavender Le Doux, an author, artist, and jazz musician who's taking on the 21st century with her riveting children's book series. Discover how Julie's 'Amazing Series' empowers kids to grapple with complex issues through compelling storytelling and vibrant illustrations. Julie shares her journey from wrestling with fear to embracing courage, and the vital life lessons woven into her narratives. Learn about the imaginative worlds she creates, the inspirations behind them, and why they're a must-read for parents and children navigating today's societal challenges. Don't miss her unique take as the 'red-pilled Mary Poppins'!
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00:00 Introduction: The Red Pilled Mary Poppins
01:11 Welcome to For the Love of Freedom
02:06 Meet Julie Lavender Ledou
03:57 Overcoming Fear: A Personal Journey
06:13 The Power of Facing Your Fears
16:19 The Amazing Series: An Overview
16:47 Constance and the Battle for Wonder
20:51 The Science Fair and the Big Bang Backlash
23:50 Propaganda and the Bombastic Baffle Gab
26:12 Writing During the Pandemic
32:36 Facing Promotion Pressure
33:28 Writing for Redemption
34:55 Commentary on Media and Society
36:21 The Metaphor of Colorblindness
47:22 The Role of Humor and Laughter
50:38 Overcoming Fear
53:57 The Importance of Telling the Truth
54:02 Promoting and Selling Books
56:47 Advice for Parents
59:54 Dreams for the Future
01:00:53 Conclusion and Partner Promotions
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freedom, fear, courage, parenting, children's books, overcoming fear, self-discovery, inspiration, storytelling, propaganda, fear, control, literature, parenting, humor, safety, childhood, growth, understanding, wonder
Transcript
Danielle Walker (00:07.585)
Welcome everyone to for the love of freedom and a special welcome to VOP USA radio listeners from around the world. Thank you all for joining us today. This is a new weekly show I started we're about five episodes in because I wanted to dig deeper into the personal stories behind so many of the guests that we've had on the state of freedom podcast, but because of the pressing policy issues we discuss we haven't always had the time and space to do that.
So for the love of freedom is my answer to that. It's a new space where I get to have coffee table style discussions that really allow us to get to know the person and the life stories behind the incredible people who are bringing freedom to the world. So joining me today is someone who just oozes inspiration and catches you up in it. You will want to share this episode with everyone.
You know who is a parent of young children. Julie Lavender-Ledoux is an artist, a jazz musician, and an author. She's written an exceptionally compelling book series for children aged 10 to 14 called The Amazing Series. And she takes on some very tough topics in a really beautifully approachable and imagination stirring way. Julie, thank you so much for coming on the show today.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (01:25.062)
Thank you and thank you for that well-constructed introduction.
Danielle Walker (01:30.191)
You're most welcome. You're most welcome. Thank you for joining me. You must be a night owl that you're able to join me so late from where you are.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (01:40.332)
Well, I'm overseas right now and I will make time to talk about these things anytime. I've done middle of the night stuff before and you know when you have a really important message to get out, you gotta get out of bed to do it.
Danielle Walker (01:56.909)
You do. You do. Well, thank you for getting out of bed to do it. And I love to start every episode with a scripture. And the one that I pulled for today is Proverbs chapter 10, verses 20 to 21. And it says, the teachings of the godly ones are like pure silver, bringing words of redemption to others. But the heart of the wicked is corrupt. The lovers of God feed many with their teachings.
but the foolish ones starve themselves for a lack of an understanding heart. And I thought that really captured the heart and direction of your books. you are an author, you're an artist, you're a musician, but to me, you're also really a teacher at heart. And I saw that firsthand when I met you at an event in Nashville a number of years ago, the beginning of my awakening, and you gave a talk on fear.
there that really impacted me because at that time, you may not know this actually, at that time I was working for Pfizer headquarters, the belly of the beast itself. And I had a lot of fear. I had fear of leaving corporate America. I had fear of, you know, look mom, no hands. Cause I had a very niche skillset. And so the Lord used your talk and the book.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (02:55.553)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (03:24.111)
that you shared with us then I read that book to kind of help me along that path and a few years later I started podcasting so I make that connection to you so thank you for being such a great teacher.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (03:38.582)
Wow, well that means the world to me because that is underlying all that I do. That theme of overcoming fear is central. When you say the book, do you talking about the book, fear is the key? Yeah. Yeah. You got to go back now on now and give me a better review. Cause I like got one review for one star. It's on, you know, it's not as available on it is on Amazon.
Danielle Walker (03:58.158)
I can't even find it. I was trying to find it today. I had to go back on my Kindle to get it. couldn't find it.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (04:07.738)
It's on Barnes and Noble and some of the other platforms. For some reason, I'm not sure how accessible it is on Amazon, but somebody left me one dang star. But you know what? They must have been so non-fearful that they didn't need me.
Danielle Walker (04:09.848)
Okay.
Danielle Walker (04:18.582)
No, I'll go give you five stars.
Danielle Walker (04:25.601)
Or they just were afraid to leave a better review. don't know. They just, they didn't read it.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (04:32.27)
Well, it's funny that you bring all that up because one of the things that I learned is that if you want to know what you were created to do, and this is, know, look, my book is short and it's punk, you know, it's punk-tilius. think that's the right word. It's beefy, it's nuggety, and it gives you the distilling down what took me probably 25 years to learn.
Danielle Walker (04:46.959)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (05:00.578)
But one of the, just one of the key things is, is that if you want to know why you were created and what you need to do, you need to go deeply and directly into what you're the most afraid of. Because it's buried there. And if you want to know what you must do, you have to go find out where the enemy decided to take you out in what ways he did it. And how, because they're.
divinely designed darts of destruction, you know, devastatingly directed at your destiny. That's a lot of D's. You know I love alliteration. When we get more into the books, you'll see how much I love alliteration just by the titles. But yeah, so that means a lot to me because really,
Danielle Walker (05:34.477)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (05:39.255)
It was, but it was excellent.
Danielle Walker (05:49.644)
haha
Julie Lavender Le Doux (05:54.83)
And I heard somebody say something about fear that that turned my head again is that You know of all the things God really tells you don't break this commandment When he says don't be afraid we sort of see it in terms of comfort like let me cover you don't be afraid and The way somebody said it recently it was like do there do know I'm commanding you You you cannot live out of a state of fear. That's an
Danielle Walker (06:11.215)
Mm-hmm.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (06:23.798)
That's an order.
Danielle Walker (06:26.113)
It's true, and I've heard people say it like fear is not an emotion, fear is a spirit. So it's like agreeing with a spirit, it's less than a valid emotion.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (06:33.549)
That's true.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (06:41.502)
Absolutely, it's a force, it's an intelligence, it's a devastating directional weapon, you know? And unfortunately, when you feel afraid at such a visceral experience, it's hard to keep your wits about you to understand what's happening. everything I'm doing right now, including the kids' books, is...
Danielle Walker (06:54.425)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (07:08.822)
I never would have done, I mean first of all I've done everything I do afraid, even if afraid I'd do it anyway, but I never would have gotten to this point if the Lord hadn't spoken to me and said to me, it's time, you can't do this anymore, you can't hide in avoidance anymore.
Danielle Walker (07:14.509)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (07:32.409)
Dig into that a little bit if you would.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (07:34.71)
Yeah, well, one of the things I learned is that if you have a, you have core competencies that allow you to, to artfully avoid dealing with things. And that's called avoidance. And avoidance actually increases the role of anxiety in your life because you'll go through an anxiety loop when you're about to, take something on you need to face and it terrifies you.
So you back off, you get a hit of relief and a euphoria from not doing it. And then, and you think, whew, that was the right thing to do. I never should have faced that scary thing. And then what happens is it gets buried deeper within your non-conscious mind and comes up in greater anxiousness. So it really boomerangs back on you. But one of the things people often do is hide within core competences that are easier and not threatening.
So you'll get all day long and twice on Sundays, everyone giving you applause for doing all the things that keep you busy and keep people happy and keep the trains running on time, but aren't the thing you need to do. But we tend to make other people happier and better organized and all kinds of things. Or sometimes it can be really destructive what we do too.
to avoid, but usually people don't want you to stop doing the things.
Danielle Walker (09:07.831)
It's true. In fact, you know, the Lord was talking to me about that this either this week or last week. It's kind of all blurs together. But this idea of you need to be where I call you to be and you need to be OK with other people being unhappy about that.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (09:24.302)
That's a mouthful. No. That's really true. And especially if your avoidance takes the form of staying in codependent or dysfunctional relationships. People really don't like it when you stop doing the dance, you know, and then they're like, wait a minute, she always steps left right now and she's not doing it and it's messed up the whole system we've got. But, you know,
Danielle Walker (09:25.539)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (09:54.51)
to really kind of encapsulate one of the things that was the most important to me was when the Lord said to me, you learned to be afraid.
you can learn to be free. You can learn to feel safe, in essence. Because what we think is, you know, we don't come out, honestly, we don't come hardwired for fear. We come hardwired for love and hunger and, you know, we are hardwired for, our bodies know how to protect us, so if they sense danger, they will go into different mechanisms to keep us, you know,
Danielle Walker (10:22.223)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (10:38.784)
physically able to protect ourselves as best we can. But we really don't come out just hardwired, afraid and terrified. We don't. We learn that. We learn to be afraid. We learn we're not safe. We learn we might not be loved. We learn these things. And if fear is learned, think about it, through something big or a series of small paper cuts over time based on a report.
Danielle Walker (10:47.907)
You're still right.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (11:08.152)
beating situation if if learning to be afraid and then and then your body learns to believe your body disbelief that you believe so when all the fight-or-flight things happen in clammy hands and the and the shakes and the panicky things that's just because your body was triggered by something you think I thought that I believed that it's here somewhere in my body is like whoa
Danielle Walker (11:33.167)
It's true.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (11:36.172)
Whoa, that could kill you, that could kill you, that could kill you. Maybe a rubber snake, but if you think it's not, you could kill you. Your body's gonna react in full on fight or flight terror, the whole deal, to get you out of there. So if you learned to be, if you learned to be afraid or just deeply chronically anxious, which is, know, it's just, that's fear, you know, then,
Danielle Walker (11:44.729)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (12:05.966)
you can really learn a different way of being. And that encouraged me so much because usually we just think we're a victim of fear. I was just minding my own business and then I was afraid and it just seems to come out of nowhere. It's so, it's so completely, you know, global to us. It's owning us. I don't know what happened. All of a sudden I was afraid or, know, but it really, it really isn't like that.
Danielle Walker (12:15.268)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (12:35.008)
It really comes, I mean obviously if somebody jumps up behind you or something like that, but in terms of our relationships and our life experiences, it's really, it's really, it's really what's going on here.
Danielle Walker (12:55.215)
Yeah. So do you, what have you done? Do you speak the truth? Do you look it in the face and say, okay, this is what I'm reacting in fear to, but the truth is I am loved. The truth is I am capable or whatever the answer is to the fear. Is that one of the ways you might coach people to get over it?
Julie Lavender Le Doux (13:20.544)
Yeah, what I've learned is that since we're multi-dimensional beings, body, soul and spirit, really need to approach it all three ways, right? And so you really need to have healing of traumatic memories and Dave Hayes' book is awesome. And then Sozo Ministries, stuff like that, where you actually get emotionally healed from triggering memories is key. Absolutely brain retraining stuff.
Danielle Walker (13:35.982)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (13:40.303)
Mm-hmm.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (13:50.562)
going out on purpose to do things on a regular basis that make you afraid is really important. When I had my daily podcast on fear free living, I ended everyone with the words, now go do something that scares you. Like make a habit every day. Now it's funny because now that I've come, you'll actually come to the point where it gets real quiet and not so many things do. But I was saying that during COVID.
Danielle Walker (14:05.559)
Mm, I love that.
Danielle Walker (14:19.855)
Good for you.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (14:20.138)
And I wouldn't wear a mask. you know, I mean, there were a few times here and there, but so I had to make myself leave the house. I didn't want to leave the house, you know. And but anyway, yeah, I mean, you learn to see doing something that makes you uncomfortable and scared as key to the process of your well-being.
And so yeah, it's a big long story. But I mean, if people are interested, I think I sum it up the best in the shortest amount of time, or at least get people to want to take the journey because you have to just decide you're not going to live like this anymore. You're fed up and you're not going to take it anymore. So I wrote this little book called Fear is the Key. And I think it says a lot.
Danielle Walker (15:03.823)
Yeah, you're right.
Danielle Walker (15:17.539)
We'll put links to it.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (15:17.742)
And it's Kindle version, only Kindle versions out there on Barnes and Noble or I think Amazon.
Danielle Walker (15:24.559)
I'll get the link and put it in the show notes for people. Now, maybe that'll take us over to the topic of your books. So you have such a strong value for courage. How did that translate into equipping parents to be brave in the way that they raise their kids? Because I find that comes through. I've only read, I've read the first book, Constance and the Battle for Wonder.
And it's been a little while, so the memory's little fuzzy on it, but that comes through.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (15:57.442)
Well, I set out to write one kind of book and wound up writing a book series that by the time we're done with book five, I'm taking on the World Economic Forum. started with one girl trying to figure out her life. The next thing you know, I am telling the truth story of what happened to us in the 21st century. And this is the amazing thing that happens when you're committed.
Danielle Walker (16:09.16)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Julie Lavender Le Doux (16:25.656)
to being a courageous person, doesn't mean you don't feel afraid. It just means that you don't allow a fear state to control you. Don't be afraid, which means to give yourself over to the fear state. I wrote an original kind of story, world-building thing a while back, and a guy read it. He said, you know, you really got something here, but you need to write a series.
and you need to write down for younger kids. So these books are for kids 10 to 14. And kids love to read in series. So he said, you really need to think about where this family could go if you wrote a series. So it starts out, the Amazings series. Thank you. Starts out with a story of one family in an entirely colorblind town called Greystone Heights.
Danielle Walker (17:12.419)
There we go. I'll keep it up there for little while.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (17:23.31)
And they are the only family that can see color. Everyone else has lost the ability to see color because they conform to something called the prescribed order. But the Folsom family can see color because they interact with the supernatural realm called wonder. And so they won't conform because they don't want to live in the gray. And they don't really totally understand what this realm of wonder is. don't.
get it in a fold over that this series but all they know is it's real all they know is they can think and they can see and they don't want and they can see what's happening around them there's something wrong with what's happening around them and they're figuring it out and it starts when their daughter wants to go to school with all the other kids at the grown-up factory she thinks it's kind of you know mom i got all that wonder stuff that you know what's that does the gray seems so sophisticated and
So they're not sure, but they let her go. And we're off to the races because at this point, the family doesn't realize that the shadowy elders of the order behind the scenes now think they have a chance to get control of the one family that stands in the way of their total domination of the entire town, the one nonconforming family. And of course, we can't have any nonconforming families, can we? And so they want to use her daughter.
Danielle Walker (18:46.627)
No.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (18:49.742)
through the education system, through the grown-up factory, and use that system to get a hold of her and eventually her family. And along the way she learns about betrayal and friendships and pressures and trust, and she needs to own her own choice. Will she fight for wonder, or will she conform? Is the gray side the same as the bright side? Is it all the same?
Because the elders are telling everybody there's nothing supernatural out there. You need us. You need the order. Just like totalitarian governments take away God and then they can substitute their control. know, communism is dead or no. Aviaism, therefore you need us, right? And so it was just an interesting story I was passionate about because having homeschooled our kids and stuff, I really did think deeply about structures of control.
Danielle Walker (19:32.718)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (19:48.138)
and thriving versus, you know, what was being served up in the establishment education around me, essentially, and what we could do and why would we want to do it differently. But I'll tell you what, it grew because then, you know, as I began to write, then I began, in book two, I began to take on the abuse of science. And what happens if at the school science fair,
They decide to control all the questions the kids can ask so they can control the answers they come up with to reaffirm that there's no meaning and purpose. There's no mystery in the universe. There's no design, no intelligence. This is why you need the order. And right.
Danielle Walker (20:33.771)
incredible. mean what an amazing analogy really for the awakening process too. I feel like I've gone through that process you like you go to, well I was probably leaving, I was leaving the grown-up factory and having to wake up to all these realities that we're unfortunately faced with.
that are, I don't know, that have just been kind of hidden beneath the surface or really hidden in plain sight.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (21:06.902)
Right. And in this book, of course, they can't stand anyone who connects to wonder. And they know color is, if you can start to see color, you're not far from wonder. So we have to keep reinforcing the gray. And we have to keep controlling the systems of, you know, thought and, again, science, relationships, pressure, community in book two. But it goes very sideways because
Constance's brother, Constance is the main character, she sort of drives the story forward. But in my family, I have a beautiful intact family, mom and dad and four kids and Constance is the oldest daughter. But then she has three incredible brothers that are foils, you know, that have these wild personalities and they all interact. in book two, her crazy brother, Chance, who blows things up just to see how they work.
He can't stand the manipulation at the science fair. And he says, they're lying to you. I know there's geniosity behind the olive at all, because I've been to Wonder and I saw how it started. he busts into the school science fair and sets off a supernatural science fair project. And it goes very wrong. What could go wrong?
Danielle Walker (22:14.755)
You
Danielle Walker (22:27.097)
That's awesome.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (22:31.254)
And then along the way, Constance is dealing with bitterness and unforgiveness from her broken heart, from relationship in the school, and all these things are happening. And the family's trying to, and they're just trying to, they're starting to realize there's more going on behind the scenes than just another way to educate your kids, you know? And so by book three, when other people in the town,
This is where it really gets dicey, and this is a book I was writing in 2020. By book three, other people in town, reasons I won't tell you, spoiler alert, they start to see dashes of color. So people are asking questions, and they're starting to choose to wear colorful outfits, and something's coming alive, and Constance is so excited this is happening in her school.
But guess what the elders of the orders say? They say, my gosh, we can't have this because we'll lose control of these people. so, but we can't tell them they haven't seen what they've seen. We'll just tell them what it means. So this is a book about propaganda.
Danielle Walker (23:33.726)
no.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (23:49.888)
And so they tell everyone that the reason why they're seeing color is because they've been exposed to a plague and that color could kill you. And so you need to wear gray glasses on your face at all times to protect you from this plague. And so Constance, even though she's been raised with this family, is completely inundated. Everywhere she goes, color could kill you, color could kill you.
The authorities have the answer. There's an authorized ideas manager who's in charge of making sure that all TV and radio and newspapers and stuff all tell everybody the world, their world that this is terrifying, you know, and they need to conform. And Constance comes home and now she doesn't trust her family anymore. They were so close and she knew wonder was a thing. And now she's instantly almost overnight.
Danielle Walker (24:40.015)
That's tough.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (24:49.24)
by the massive rollout of propaganda can't find her her bearings. And now she's terrified of the color that was her life before. Is this not what we've all been through?
Danielle Walker (25:02.251)
It is, I have to think it was pretty cathartic to write.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (25:05.173)
It was terrifying. Are you kidding me? You talk about being scared. Because I honestly, it was hard to go to the page to write because I don't write with an outline. I get titles and I get some ideas and then we see what happens. And I honestly didn't, so I have to tell you the titles of the books because you'll like those. But I honestly didn't know if my people would be okay. This is 2020.
Danielle Walker (25:26.435)
Yeah, here and I'll put them back up.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (25:35.038)
I'm shocked that churches are letting people call them non-essential. I was writing, okay, let me tell you. So the first book is Constance and the Battle for Wonder. That's when she first goes off to the grownup factory to see what's happening, you know, how the other half lives. And we start to find out about the elders of the order and what their interests are and why the falsomes love color and why other people don't and what conformity looks like.
Danielle Walker (25:41.518)
So you were writing it in 2020. You weren't doing this like right now.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (26:04.354)
What, you know, and as opposed to conviction and free, you know, really serious thinking, free thinking. So that's Constance and the battle for wonder. Will Constance fight for wonder or will she just conform? Will she just, you know, do what everyone else is doing? Constance enchants the crazy brother and the big bang backlash. This one goes deeply, deeply into origins.
in a really super fun way with some beefy science taught through the school science fair and how chance is just determined that everyone understands the geniosity behind the all of it all. And I have to, I've been to wonder, I've got a science project from wonder and I have to show everyone exactly why I know there's genius in our universe, our cosmos. And so that's.
Constance and Chance and the Big Bang Backlash. Remember I told you I like alliteration. Well this book, Constance and Charleston, her nerdy brother who reads the dictionary just for fun. The book in that third cover is a dictionary because this kid understands that words control the world. And if you can control the words, you can control people. So he begins to unpack how words are used.
Danielle Walker (27:07.139)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (27:31.704)
truthfully or artfully or craftily or trickily, you know what I mean? Trickishly? Anyway, so he, that book is called Constance and Charleston and the bombastic baffle gab, which are two really fun words that literally mean propaganda. And so, so he, this book is about how propaganda works. And what happens is the kids in my books teach each other.
Danielle Walker (27:35.887)
now.
Danielle Walker (27:49.006)
Wow.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (28:00.654)
They'll learn things, come home, they'll go, wow, what was that? What did you think about that? Or Charleston will be reading the dictionary. Wow, you check this out? look what I just learned. When she comes home terrified that a black hole plague, a plague leaked out of a black hole and a symptom of it is seeing color, so you have to wear, dangerous to see color, it could get to you. He's like, you're kidding me,
Let's research this." So he researches it. And now he's really mad. He's mad that they're lying to everybody in town. So he starts his own newspaper in Book 3 to tell the truth about what's happening. Well, what could go wrong when you start your own newspaper and begin to ask questions when the elders of the order control everything and they don't want you doing that? Imagine what could happen to you and your family that we've all been through, right? Right? And so...
Danielle Walker (28:54.969)
Yeah. Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (28:59.566)
It was hard to write because I didn't, you know, I'm going this way, well this is a really fun idea and my son Jean-Marc helped me kind of flesh out this idea about color and gray glasses and all this stuff and how they would position color as, you know, dangerous. What's the word when you can catch something?
Danielle Walker (29:24.356)
Yeah.
contagious.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (29:28.866)
Thank you! And so we're living through this and again I'm watching people around me. They're saying things like, well, I went to the store today and I stayed six feet away from someone else. I'm like, or well our churches, we care so much we closed our doors. Or you know Jesus would want you to wear a mask or you know.
Danielle Walker (29:46.061)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (29:55.897)
people out on the road, somebody wearing a mask in a car, I was like, Jesus, this is, I mean, mean, literarily, Jesus, this is America. What happened to you people? know, what happened to Christians? What happened to you? Do you know, greater is he that is in me? What? mean, right, it was just so, so evil and shocking to see who was willing to just give up everything.
Danielle Walker (30:04.695)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (30:20.591)
video.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (30:24.182)
and then to watch who was being canceled and shut down and marginalized and seeing not only would people be afraid, they would hate you for not being afraid. Like, wait a minute, you changed the definition of vaccinations and then you're going to go get one to protect you. But you're afraid of me because I thought you had one.
Danielle Walker (30:38.809)
Yeah. Yeah.
Danielle Walker (30:52.569)
I know. I know.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (30:54.488)
that was supposed to protect you from this. So we have to change the definition of a vaccine, which I guess everybody in the world has to take all the same stuff at the same time or we could all die.
Danielle Walker (31:03.875)
And Julie, working at, I worked at Pfizer during COVID, right? Yeah, and it was astounding. So there's a woman in my chain of command, like up above me. And we had become friendly before she kind of got a bigger job. And she called me, well, I was refusing the Vax, refusing, refusing. Early on, she told me, she was like, if we're doing this as Pfizer, there's absolutely.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (31:08.47)
What?
Danielle Walker (31:33.723)
no chance I will ever take that vaccine because no vaccines are created that quickly, right? So clock that. I was in my apartment in New York. That had to be February, March, March. Okay, so it would have been March, April, May of 2020. Fast forward to after, you know, once these things start rolling out and here I am refusing and she's like, yeah, but you're not going to get a promotion.
And you know, what are you talking about? Of course I'm getting it. Of course I'm giving it to my child. And I'm like, these people drank their own Kool-Aid. They knew, they knew. You know, it was even more astounding for me in that environment, I think, because it was just like, y'all know the rules. Y'all literally know the rules and you know that the rules are not suddenly the same as they always have been. So why can't you be so comfortable doing this?
Julie Lavender Le Doux (32:29.964)
It was astounding to wake up in the midst of mass psychosis and people that should know better or think better or, I don't know, but I'm writing this book, this books and I'm going, how do you have to give children a happy ending? I mean, I never write that lap, slappy, easy peasy things because the world doesn't like that.
Danielle Walker (32:36.206)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (32:59.172)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (32:59.446)
And if your fiction, if your fairy stories can't handle, can't live up to the ghouls out there, you know, they're not big enough because classic fairy tales handle very evil things, topics, you know. So we have to be able to write books that can hold up to this, what we're facing or it's just not fair to kids not to give them a narrative to live out of that can handle it.
Danielle Walker (33:15.172)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (33:28.986)
And so I didn't know how to write, but I did keep writing. then eventually I wrote about something that was super, super redemptive. You talked about words of silver. Well, silver in the Bible is associated with redemption. And so I really seek to have that.
Danielle Walker (33:52.015)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (33:57.068)
redemption in what I write. And I pray, you know, and God helped me and I'm surprised. I'm amazed when all I've got is a title and a bad situation. How am I going get about this? Well then, what's interesting is that I couldn't stop there because I was commenting a lot on the fear, the propaganda, the use of media, the abuse of media, the gray glasses, the things on the face and all that.
And guess what, in book three, I even have a character named Karen. And she's a little girl who wears two pairs of gray glasses on her face at all times just to keep herself. And she rats on others. Anyway, but it didn't stop there. Because then when they started, you know,
Danielle Walker (34:33.007)
So many Karens.
Danielle Walker (34:44.815)
That's amazing.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (34:55.084)
jabbing and and punishing people and then you heard the rhetoric about how We should all be put away because we're not doing the getting our jabs and they and and and the yelling and screaming what they hoped would happen to us for not obeying that we should be punished and then you could see the places where they were locking people up in Australia and those little cubicles and stuff
Danielle Walker (35:09.166)
Right?
Danielle Walker (35:22.319)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (35:24.908)
And then people would say, well, I just want you to know I self quarantined, came home from, I came home from Walmart and quarantined for a week. You know, whatever, like you're kidding me. So in book four, which is Constance and chief, her littlest brother and the blind spot blunder.
Danielle Walker (35:36.207)
Yeah, I know.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (35:52.44)
They roll out something called safety drops for the kids' for everybody's eyes, you see, because the gray glasses won't keep you safe enough, you know, from the color demons and the color dangers. So we have to make you permanently color blind. So you'll really be safe. You'll never see color ever again. And think about it. That is when you go so far into the brainwashing. You won't come back.
Danielle Walker (36:03.539)
wow.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (36:20.524)
You could be presented with all of the information and this is what we're seeing in the LGBTQ world. Parents have overseen the castration of their children, will spend the rest of their lives if they don't receive grace, will spend the rest of their lives over the hill on the opposite side of reality to protect the choices they've made.
Danielle Walker (36:30.467)
Yeah, it's true.
Danielle Walker (36:46.191)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (36:49.238)
And this is what happens if you say, I'm willing to be made permanently colorblind so that I'll be permanently safe. so this metaphor of color and colorblindness and safety drops, it just says it all. And I never have to re-traumatize a kid when they read my story because it's in enough of a fantasy.
They can go, wow, that was dumb. And then they go, wait, that's kind of what we went through. Mom, that's what we went through. And I've had kids say that, mom, it's not what we went through. But in my books, there's a problem. What if some people who take the safety drops wind up blind? What happens? Is this not what we're living through right now? And then that book is called Cheat. It's not in print yet, because all of your viewers have to buy many, many copies of my current.
three books.
Danielle Walker (37:47.191)
All right, look, I'll put up and let me put up the link to that as well.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (37:52.378)
I only need about 15 grand people and then I can print books four and five. Okay, okay So And I have all my books by the way printed in India Because China is a different thing right? They steal your intellectual property. They're beautifully magazine quality archival paper beautiful, you know matte covers
Danielle Walker (37:57.657)
Beautiful.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (38:18.126)
20 full color illustrations in every book. Chapter books are not like this because they're usually newsprint, black and white, but I can't tell kids that color is a metaphor for revelation and truth and give them black and white books. I can't. So color has to be, the whole experience has to be so rich for the people who read them, including adults love these because they're really healing. The more you read, because I go deeper into these themes, right?
Danielle Walker (38:31.577)
No.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (38:45.718)
I'm telling it like it is, right? And so book four, what do you do and what if my family's affected in the book very personally by these safety drops? Again, it's very personal to us. Then by book five, which ends the first five books in this, there'll be 10 ultimately, then we'll go into the YA, the young adult thing. But book five is called Constance and
Cornelius, which is the family dog, and the Balambang Jang Boomerang.
Danielle Walker (39:23.599)
What does that mean?
Julie Lavender Le Doux (39:24.91)
Well, believe it or not, it is the real terminology from like 18th century sailors language of a paradise. And what could be a perfect world, a new world order? What could happen if somebody, if we decide to do what they tell us to do so we could all have, you know, a great reordering? Because there's the order and then we got to the great reordering.
Danielle Walker (39:41.455)
No.
Danielle Walker (39:49.839)
Wow.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (39:53.95)
And we gotta have, you know, we gotta even everything out and let the smart people tell us out of our 15 minute cities and all the things so we can just all be good. And so in this book I take on the World Economic Forum. And it's hilarious, because tyrannists are hilarious. I mean, their ideas are so stupid that you gotta have some fun.
Danielle Walker (40:03.673)
Yeah.
You
Danielle Walker (40:15.407)
I'm
Julie Lavender Le Doux (40:20.898)
Come on, you're, okay, we're staring down a global depopulation agenda. Who doesn't find that funny?
Danielle Walker (40:25.625)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (40:29.326)
I mean, I'm a little cracked on this. You got to, mean, seriously, because really if Jesus, you know, the Lord says in, you know, Psalm, sorry, Psalm, it says the Lord sits in heaven and he laughs at his enemies. Well, if he's got a good sense of humor about all this, I figured I could get one. But see, the point is, is that somebody has got to tell the truth story of what is happening to us in the 21st century to children. We cannot memory hold this. My books are essentially history and prophecy.
Danielle Walker (40:45.697)
Yeah, absolutely.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (40:59.628)
because I'm telling the truth about what happened. But I never do it in a way that will doom or terrify children. But do you honestly think, I mean, apart from God and God's big factor here, we're going to survive if we don't have people who understand, if we don't tell the next generation the truth of what these ghouls want to do and how they work and how they operate? And if you can use metaphors and imagery,
Danielle Walker (41:18.146)
It's so true.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (41:25.802)
instead of beating us up with a documentary format about how it all sucked or could.
Danielle Walker (41:30.319)
Yeah. Yeah, interview 900 traumatized individuals.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (41:36.704)
Wait, why who I'm sorry. I don't have time for that. I'll watch I love Lucy reruns all day long before I want to relive Along we went through but we can't run from it we have to we have to tell the children the truth and and I want to be the one to do it and it better be someone like me because because someone's gonna tell the kids what it meant they already have ideas about what it what it meant because
Danielle Walker (41:40.035)
Mm-mm.
Danielle Walker (41:45.472)
Exactly.
Danielle Walker (41:57.572)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (42:01.039)
That's right.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (42:04.578)
There was so much fear out there and so much media out there. Don't kid yourselves that our little munchkins weren't picking up a lot more than they'll ever let on about what they went through.
Danielle Walker (42:14.383)
It's true, that absolutely, and the institutionalized education systems, I'm sure have picked many, many creative ways to propagandize what we went through, who the villains were, and who the saviors were in that. And it's not the same people you would pick.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (42:42.754)
Right, and just the stay safe, stay safe, stay safe, stay safe, stay safe.
Danielle Walker (42:44.963)
Yeah. Yeah. People still say that called AMEX this week and they hung up. said, stay safe. was like,
Julie Lavender Le Doux (42:54.134)
I would stop people and say, stay free, stay free, stay free.
Danielle Walker (42:56.685)
Yeah, I love that.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (43:03.872)
And then you see how they just roll another thing out to keep the population in a terrified state. goes from when COVID was wearing thin, I guess, for a while there. Then the next thing you know, the Ukraine flag was on everything everywhere at all times. And I went, you guys, once you see it, can't unsee it, which is why we teach children through narrative and through symbolism. Because then they can start to grasp how concepts, how things work in a larger way.
Danielle Walker (43:18.596)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (43:33.528)
then it's useful. so, Danielle, you realize I am the Mary Poppins for the 21st century. I am the red-pilled Mary Poppins.
Danielle Walker (43:37.369)
Mm-hmm.
Danielle Walker (43:42.637)
I love that.
You are so red-pilled.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (43:47.394)
Because if Mary Poppins flew into the 21st century and took that red pill from the Matrix movie where the guy wakes up and realizes, my gosh, it sucks. This really is bad news. And I better do something about it. There's a way out, but it's really bad and I can't go back to sleep. If she took that red pill, she would use her spoonful of sugar to write.
Danielle Walker (43:55.439)
Mm-hmm.
Danielle Walker (44:08.504)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (44:16.203)
write these books. But since she wasn't available, I had to do it.
Danielle Walker (44:18.243)
That is amazing. Yeah. You filled in. Well, you're doing a great job. Tell us about the fifth book and then I have a couple questions that I want to get to as well. that was the fifth. Okay, that was the dog one. Okay.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (44:30.478)
I did, told you it was, it's called, that's the ball of things, boomerang, right? But then I have, I'm working on rewriting something right now that will be book six and I've already pretty much done book seven. So I'm well on the way and by the time I get through to book 10, I will have taken on the biggest, most compelling issues of our time, including various forms of very difficult childhood abuse to deal with. But always, and I write books so that,
Danielle Walker (44:40.441)
Okay.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (44:59.958)
I'll never violate your child's innocence or doom them out because I write in a way that if your kid doesn't get what I'm talking about, they'll still enjoy the story and they'll pick up truth along the way. But if your child is old enough to see, huh, wow, that reminds me exactly of what I heard about my friend in junior high just did or went through or.
happen to them or I heard on the news or the radio, they'll be able to go, that helps me make sense of the world. And so that's my goal. Because wonder, and then I'll unpack what is wonder, what is the realm of wonder, who's behind it, how does it work. Well, you have to get to book 10 before I give that away.
Danielle Walker (45:47.713)
Okay, save the best for last.
That's awesome. Speaking of wonder, you're working with a lot of tension here because there's some things that are so marvelous and wonder is, you know, so ethereal and beyond and colorful and hopeful. And then you're dealing with some really tough, real issues. How do you keep the the tension? How do you even as you're walking through life? That's just the reality of how
how we are having to deal with day-to-day life. How do you keep your wonder and imagination active while grappling with these topics?
Julie Lavender Le Doux (46:30.958)
Well, I think kids are a big deal. You got to hang out with kids, you know? And my family and I have a very childlike way of humor. We're always goofing around. We're very goofy. And so for me, laughter and humor and seeing the silliness
Danielle Walker (46:40.367)
Mm.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (47:00.232)
and dumb puns and stuff like that have always been a huge, huge coping mechanism for us. And so we will always find a way to laugh in almost any situation we can find the ridiculous. so I would say that's probably one of the number one things that I learned to do and we've learned to do together. Because it really does
break a lot of stuff off of you when you laugh.
Danielle Walker (47:30.539)
It does. There's something spiritual about laughter because I can't tell you the number of times in the last five years that the idea of you have to laugh or else you'll cry just comes up. you know, and thankfully I'm surrounded by family who view life the same way. And you do have to make the best of terrible situations. And thankfully God's given us a sense of humor.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (47:58.124)
Yeah, and I really do think I just we win. leads us in triumphal procession. That literally means everywhere I go, I go to win. I didn't come to your meeting to lose. I didn't get out of bed to lose. And I didn't come up with that. was a guy named Curry Blake. But the idea that whatever situation I walk into, I didn't get here. I'm not here to lose. Not because I'm so great.
Danielle Walker (48:01.197)
Yeah. Yeah.
Danielle Walker (48:07.246)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (48:13.73)
I love that.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (48:27.106)
but because he's so great, I'm with him. We don't lose. So I may do an OB-1, you know, where I bend over and go, yeah, I'll bow out now. I don't need to duke it out with you, but I win. I mean, when you think about it, humility, you win when you're humble. You win when you're kind. You win when you're loving. You win when you forgive.
Danielle Walker (48:29.806)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (48:51.065)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (48:55.704)
You win, you know, when you move out of the way for other people. And so when you see the irony of how scratching for control, power, and dominance actually is a great way to lose, it's kind of funny. It's like when you, in book five, when I take on the world orderers ordering forum, you know, I can't help it.
Danielle Walker (49:12.695)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (49:25.954)
Some of the things that Krauss Schnob said so very funny. You will eat nothing, you're all nothing, going to be happy. know, you're like, what a wacko. You know, you just kind of, so, and one of the best things in overcoming fear is learning to laugh at yourself and your fears because they're so, fear is such a small way to live, you know.
Danielle Walker (49:29.039)
You
Danielle Walker (49:52.697)
Yeah, it is. And it's, I mean, you've talked about it, but it's so limiting. Not just, it's limiting of the world that you allow yourself to live in. It's not just limiting of your, I don't know, I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say, but hopefully, hopefully you get a good, it'll, it'll, it'll scoot through the airwaves.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (50:15.342)
Well, here's another tip from Julie's handbook of Fear-Free Living. Fear never just says, OK, I'll take East Germany, you take West Germany, and we'll leave it there. There's no line. But we think, we think, OK, if I just avoid that one thing.
Danielle Walker (50:33.452)
Right.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (50:44.034)
that really scares me. I'll keep the rest of my life and just avoid dealing with that one thing. We're sadly mistaken if we think the spirit of fear just stays on that side of the demilitarized zone. It never does. Fear constantly encroaches. Fear's constantly taking another bite. So if you give it one area of your life and you say, well, I'll do everything else, but I'll just never confront my alcoholic dad, you know.
Danielle Walker (50:45.636)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (51:12.982)
or whatever it is you've decided your carve out, trust me, it doesn't work that way. Like you said, it will make your world smaller and smaller.
Danielle Walker (51:14.329)
Yeah.
Danielle Walker (51:20.377)
And I know what
Danielle Walker (51:25.591)
And it doesn't, this was the point I lost halfway through the airwaves, was it doesn't just make your world smaller, it makes you smaller. You just keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller until the purpose that you have to give the world is not visible to anyone.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (51:42.764)
Right. And trust me, I mean, I was such a fearful person. The word that described my life was fear. In every way that, and I had all kinds of them. Weird ones, big ones, little ones, know, anxiety, depression, know, this, that, know, panic, a little panic on the side. I had them all. Self-hatred, you know, I mean, little fear that I wasn't enough and fear that God hated me. You know, just pick one. I had them all.
Danielle Walker (51:48.857)
Wow.
Danielle Walker (52:01.896)
Hehehehehe
Danielle Walker (52:12.14)
Yeah. Wow.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (52:13.01)
And you really can get better, it's true. Don't let the enemy lie to you about how it works. He doesn't, you know.
I mean, it's not, you gotta be willing to walk it out. But I remember when the Lord told me, said, it's time, you gotta deal with this one. And I was like, no, you're kidding me, but everybody just loves me the way I am. And I'm so successful. I'm so successful doing so many other things you've gotta be kidding. Aren't you sure you need me teaching Sunday school? Instead of,
Danielle Walker (52:38.575)
This scaredy cat over here.
Yeah
Julie Lavender Le Doux (52:51.64)
doing whatever it is, know, aren't you sure you need me doing this other really important thing? You know, and he's like, nope, I really don't. And I said, well, okay, I've learned enough about who you are that, that I'll take the, I will follow you one step at a time. You take my hand, the answer's yes. And I'm just going to trust you. We're going to do this together and we're going to do it in, you know, doable bites. And he's so good that way.
He really is.
Danielle Walker (53:21.069)
Yeah, he is so good that way. And I'm glad that we don't really get to know the step number three because it can be too much.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (53:28.686)
I know. Now, I do have one fear that I'm going to give into right now. The fear that your people won't know how to buy my books. So I must tell them how to buy it. Because you see, there's no other way to get them except for at this website right here. I just did not want to, first of all,
Danielle Walker (53:40.239)
Yes, I'll put it up, look.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (53:56.414)
Amazon doesn't pay authors very much and I just didn't want to get canceled. just said plus their print to order things cannot compete with the quality of what we're putting out and and I've curated this whole I've curated the layout the design the stories the You know work brought in the editors Found the illustrator worked with her put the whole thing together the concept. I mean it's it's
It's really a VIP deal. so if you want to get my books, you have to get them there. But I'll tell you what, to make it easier to go through the friction of a new website, if you go to the quest for wonder.com, you get book one for free with a free audio book bonus. If you just pay me for shipping and handling and then, but you have to stay on the site and get books two and three, because that's where you get all these, this juicy.
Danielle Walker (54:35.705)
Mm-hmm.
Danielle Walker (54:41.689)
There you go.
awesome.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (54:54.722)
good stuff that we've all been through. Book one is super fun and exciting and people love it. But what I'm hearing now from people who got the first three is, boy, I love book two and I love book three. it's really there by the book three is really, really getting to the jugular of all we've been through, of the depth of what we've faced and how to talk to kids about it. But each book lays an important piece in that process, right?
Danielle Walker (55:24.739)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (55:25.0)
So, and I have study guides so that if you want to use this in a home school or a different kind of learning environment or you want to just have those on hand, those are digitally delivered. The books are physical copies. But you can have these study guides to be able to talk to your kids about. And I have some bonuses and stuff. But you got to go to thequestforwonder.com to get them.
trusting that people will help me make it possible to get books four and five printed faster than I had anticipated. Because now that others are finished with book three, they're really bugging me about those other books now.
Danielle Walker (56:08.439)
Yeah, they are. They are. heard that when I was doing a little research. People are chomping at the bit. And I'll put this in the show notes, Julie, and I'll also put it up on our website so people can have access to it if they're coming to it a little bit late. A question for you. I mean, these are tough topics. Any advice for parents who are trying to deal with talking to their kids about tough topics?
Julie Lavender Le Doux (56:34.028)
Well, I think, first of all, you want them to have great literature. And you can talk about really so many things with great books. And there's some good ones. The Green Ember series is very good. And a lot of classic, classic literature, the postmodern stuff that's made its way into the libraries. And the bookshelves of kids recently is a complete total waste.
Danielle Walker (57:00.729)
Mm-mm. Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (57:03.522)
the woke stuff is, but the, but classic fairy tales, classic literature, this is why you want to read with your kids. This is why if you get my books, you're getting these free audio books. can get them, you get free audio books for two and three too, if you buy those. And so you can listen in the car and talk about it. And this is the kind of experience, as an example, obviously my books are the best, but if you, you know, you,
Danielle Walker (57:29.763)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (57:31.456)
want to have these experiences with your kids so you can listen to great literature together and then begin to talk about the characters and sit down and say have you ever felt like that? Have you been through anything like that? What do you think? And then it takes it off of it's not so heavy handed, right? But look, our kids are, you know, they're just looking for an excuse to pick us over everybody else out there.
Danielle Walker (57:50.415)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (57:59.798)
And I think this is the deal parents don't realize is that if you're not careful and you don't maintain supremacy in the sense of being the central and most important people in your kid's life, it can be taken from you very easily when you drop them off six, seven hours a day and pick them up and then drop them off to two hours more of activities. And so one of the biggest, and people don't realize how quickly they lose their children.
Danielle Walker (58:23.055)
Well said.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (58:29.774)
in establishment education systems because they have to survive they're not stupid they realize you're not there so you want to be there as much as possible for the conversations and uh... and uh... you want to have as much family building time and do less do less do less stuff less running around you can you know interesting thing about homeschooling is you can get
Danielle Walker (58:34.489)
Yeah. Yeah.
Danielle Walker (58:53.209)
Yeah.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (58:59.778)
your schoolwork done in a few hours a day and the rest of the day you can do all kinds of other things like start a business or teach your kid how to do laundry. Yay! That's just an option. Yeah, but we keep thinking we got to do more. I think we need to do less. And I think laughing, laugh, laugh, laugh, lots of fun. And look, who wants to be around us if we're like bummed out all the time? So we want to keep a joy factor there.
Danielle Walker (59:06.767)
Which could be its own business.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (59:27.598)
and read, read good books with your kids.
Danielle Walker (59:31.711)
question for you. What is your dream for the children who read your book?
Julie Lavender Le Doux (59:36.962)
that they'll help me make movies. Why not?
Danielle Walker (59:40.579)
lost them. These are screaming to have movies made about them.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (59:48.11)
They're screaming at me. I'll tell you.
Danielle Walker (59:53.141)
Awesome. Well, I'm prayerful that we will see that day very soon.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (59:58.149)
thank you. I received that. Yes, may it be so.
Danielle Walker (01:00:02.083)
Yeah, well Julie, thank you so much for taking some time with me today. You are such a gift. Thank you for putting your heart and soul into this and giving parents some tools that are much needed to really walk through some of the lessons we've learned and some of the tough experiences we've had over the last couple of years and also a new way to see the world. Yeah, absolutely. Have a great night, Julie.
Julie Lavender Le Doux (01:00:26.288)
Thank you. Thanks so much.
I will, you can count on it. You too.
Danielle Walker (01:00:32.279)
Alright, God bless. Thank you.
