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Brian invited good friend Todd Freeman up to Wisconsin to chase the king of the uplands, Ruffed Grouse. After two days of chasing grouse and woodcock in the northwoods, they sit down for a late night podcast reflecting on the last few days. Chasing ruffed grouse can be hard and its been said "its a young mans game." Todd found out why i venture south to watch my dogs run on the prairie after a season of chasing ruffies.

You can follow Todd on instagram @ksbirddog

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