It's the hanged man and the four queens, so Phil and Ben's ex-X-ian asses talk about jesus christ and bible thumpery, which gets us into a thing about healing, rebirth, war, the jungian 'shadow, misoguny, and we ask questions like "is death the ultimate orgasm?" "Does christ bear political revolutions?"... lots of other stuff. This episode is actually going to go up in three parts over the next few weeks since we went so far off with it. Here's the first which ends abruptly with outro music: loop of Tattiriya Upanisad 1 by Gaeia Sansirit w a pitch corrected ATU XII composition by Phil.
