🔥 Excerpt
"The less I know about something, the more I can create a breakthrough."
âš¡ TL;DR
Alan Gregerman explains how innovation is fueled not by having all the answers, but by knowing where certainty limits progress. We explore curiosity, fast experimentation, leadership humility, and how founders can build innovation systems that stay relevant as the future unfolds.
📄 Show Notes
Wisdom of Ignorance is not about lacking intelligence. It is about recognizing that real innovation often begins where certainty ends. In this conversation, Alan Gregerman reframes what it means to lead, build, and create value in a world that refuses to stand still.
As founders, we are taught to value expertise, preparation, and confidence. Alan does not dismiss those things, but he challenges the hidden cost of overreliance on what we already know. The Wisdom of Ignorance shows up when leaders are willing to suspend certainty long enough to see opportunities that expertise alone can obscure.
We talked about why most ideas are already out in the world, borrowed from someone else's thinking or inspired by nature, and why innovation rarely starts inside a conference room. Curiosity requires movement. Presence requires attention. Innovation demands both.
Alan shared a grounded approach to building without betting the entire business. Protect the core. Run experiments beside it. Ship an 80 percent idea, put it in front of the people you want to serve, and let them help shape what comes next. Some ideas earn their place. Others quietly fall away. That is not failure. That is learning doing its job.
Leadership sits at the center of all of this. Cultures of innovation do not emerge from suggestion boxes. They emerge when leaders clarify purpose, model curiosity, practice humility, respect ideas from unexpected places, stay future focused, and maintain a healthy awareness that someone else is always trying to do it better.
The Wisdom of Ignorance becomes an advantage when founders stop pretending to have every answer and start building systems that learn faster than the market changes. That is how real innovation takes root.
✅ Key Takeaways
👤 Bio
Alan Gregerman is the founder of VentureWorks, an innovation consulting firm based in Washington, DC. He advises organizations on new ideas, products, and growth strategies, and is the author of The Wisdom of Ignorance.
👑 Host Info
Rick Meekins is an entrepreneur, strategic advisor, and host of The Relentless Pursuit of Winning, where he explores what it actually takes to build, lead, and sustain meaningful businesses. With over 30 years of experience working alongside founders and leadership teams, Rick brings a systems-oriented perspective to growth, strategy, and execution.
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🧠Chapters
00:00 Innovation, value, and the risk of customer drift
03:55 Curiosity as the real starting point for innovation
06:40 Why most ideas begin outside the building
09:35 Problem solving and serendipity
12:28 Rediscovering wonder and presence
15:20 Focus, purpose, and choosing what to build
23:17 Why perfect slows progress
26:28 Creating a culture of innovation
27:25 Leadership behaviors that unlock innovation
32:51 Experimentation and portfolio thinking
39:31 The Wisdom of Ignorance in action
44:47 Relentless pursuit of winning
46:19 Curiosity, service, and building what matters
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