Rabbi Josh sat down with Zac Banik, an alumnus of our Art/Lab program (second cohort) and a thoughtful, creative human (actually this was two conversations SEAMLESSLY woven together through editing). Their conversation covers the tension between creativity/innovation and tradition in Jewish life and art, how we think about what we owe the Jewish past and the Jewish future, and they delve into Zac's fascinating engagement with an AI bot named Uriel, who loves Jewish ideas and with whom Zac has a relationship ... sort of. Enjoy.