SUMMARY
In this rich and layered episode, Michelle Kinder and Chris Kent Phelps kick things off with a heartfelt introduction before handing the mic to Robert and Michelle for a deep, honest conversation about what it truly takes to support students—and the adults who serve them. They explore the power of representation, the importance of relationships, and the role adult behavior plays in shaping student outcomes.
From there, Chris and Michelle come back to unpack the conversation, highlighting the threads of emotional resilience, high expectations, and the need for educators to care for themselves as they care for others. Together, they reflect on how leadership, clarity, and capacity-building can help schools become places where everyone—students and adults alike—can thrive.
TAKEAWAYS
Adult behavior significantly impacts student outcomes.
How we show up—our presence, our tone, our consistency—shapes every student's experience.
Transformative relationships drive change in education.
Real, lasting change doesn't start with programs—it starts with people. Connection is the catalyst.
Representation in leadership roles is essential for equitable decision-making.
Who sits at the table matters. Students need to see themselves reflected in those who lead them.
Creating a supportive environment is vital for educator well-being.
Educators can't pour into others when they're empty. Support isn't a bonus—it's a necessity.
Self-examination helps in understanding emotional responses.
The inner work matters. Awareness of our own reactions is essential to leading with clarity and compassion.
CHAPTERS
00:00 – Reversing the Narrative on Education
04:09 – Meet Robert Selders Jr.: A Journey of Transformation
10:00 – The Importance of Representation in Education
13:48 – Empowering Students from Challenging Backgrounds
20:00 – The Role of Adult Behavior in Student Success
25:07 – Fortifying Education Systems Against Challenges
30:10 – Creating Conditions for Adult Thriving
38:50 – Self-Care and Resilience in Education
44:58 – The Lasting Impact of Educators
48:20 – Navigating Relationships and Expectations in Education
49:46 – The Importance of High Standards
52:11 – Embracing Challenges and Personal Growth
54:07 – Dealing with Fear and Emotional Resilience
58:24 – The Power of Reflection and Self-Examination
01:00:20 – Building Capacity and Mastery in Education
01:01:24 – The Role of Leadership in Supporting Educators
01:03:00 – Transformative Relationships in Education
01:10:20 – Anticipating Adversity and Fortifying Systems
01:15:51 – Creating a Supportive Environment for Educators
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