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Podcast host Duncan Barkes is joined by the TPA's Elliot Keck. 

Their guest is cultural campaigner and commentator Zewditu Gebreyohanes. 

She is a former director of Restore Trust - the pressure group that aims to get the National Trust to return to basics. 

Zewditu also wrote a report earlier this year entitled 'A shell of its former self - Is The National Trust Being Mismanaged?' 

They discuss the current state of the National Trust and how many organisations have slipped into the world of woke. 

You can FREELY subscribe to Zewditu's excellent Substack, The Custodian, here