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Podcast host Duncan Barkes and the TPA's Will Yarwood are joined by Karl Williams, Research Director at the Centre for Policy Studies. 

The CPS has published a paper: 'Britain and the ECHR - Past Myths, Present Problems and Future Options' by The Right Hon The Lord Lilley. 

They discuss whether Britain could or should quit the ECHR. 

They also chat about the latest stats revealing how many foreign nationals are in receipt of Universal Credit in the UK.