Podcast host Duncan Barkes is joined by John O'Connell, Chief Executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, for a wide-ranging conversation with Lord Matthew Elliott - one of Britain's most influential campaigners.
Lord Elliott founded both the TaxPayers' Alliance and Big Brother Watch, and was the Chief Executive of Vote Leave during the EU referendum.
Now a Conservative peer in the House of Lords and President of the Jobs Foundation, he reflects on campaigning, Brexit and the need to remake the case for business being a force for good.
It you love political history and successful campaigning then this episode is a MUST listen.
