Kathryn interviews family defense attorney and advocate Diane L. Redleaf JD, author of “They Took the Kids Last Night: How the Child Protection System Puts Families at Risk”. The U.S. practices child welfare like no other country in the world. In the name of child protection, it removes children from their families, temporarily and permanently. Redleaf, a pioneer defender of parents and families, shares the stories of what happened to six families whose children were wrongly seized by child protection services. Kathryn also interviews physician Beth Ricanati MD, author of “Braided: A Journey of a Thousand Challahs”. What if the act of making bread – mixing and kneading, watching and waiting – could heal your heartache, your emptiness, and your sense of being overwhelmed? It can. This is the surprise that Dr. Ricanati learned when she started baking challah: that simply stopping and baking bread was the best medicine she could prescribe for women in a fast-paced world.