He drove 17 hours to adopt a baby… and got told no.
Some people come into your life and you just know—they're solid. In this episode, we talk about leadership through adversity, adoption through heartbreak, building character in small towns, and what working on a railroad can teach you about managing chaos. This conversation is raw, human, and powerful. It's about resilience. It's about taking risks. And it's about the kind of leadership that's built through life—not just titles.
If you lead people, mentor anyone, or simply want to become stronger through difficult seasons, this episode will resonate deeply. From adoption journeys and emotional intelligence to career pivots and startup risk, this one is about becoming the kind of leader people trust. Make sure you subscribe—and if you want help building leadership like this in your own life or organization, find us at DNAcall.com.
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