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• "Love Thy Neighbor" with Dan, Tom, and therapist Colette
• Colette's California media tour for her book
• Colette appears on the controversial "Whatever" podcast
• "Whatever" framed as alpha/anti-woke male genre
• Critique of toxic masculinity and "men under attack" tropes
• Other shows mock/analyze these alpha podcasts
• Past "Whatever" guests include Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens
• Secretive taping: last-minute address, security, metal detector
• Overloaded studio: 9–16 mics; strict mic rules enforced
• Tom's old-school gripe: too many open mics
• OnlyFans model spotlighted; show leans on visual appeal
• Colette cast as the feminist voice on the panel
• Her therapist stance: note rare valid points, reject nonsense
• Rage-baiting for clicks; deliberate provocation
• Dan learned rage-bait radio with Ed Till; ethical doubts
• Colette dragged for going on four dates in one day
• Chivalry debate: who pays and for how long
• Defense of casual "coffee dates" amid app fatigue
• Host claims chivalry burdens men while demanding submission
• Child-support and dating-expectations attacks on Colette
• Narrative: young white men victimized and owed obedience
• Popularity driven by true fans, not just hate-listeners
• Red-pill framing; younger male pushback culture
• "80% of women want 20% of men" stat challenged
• "666" trope (six figures/feet/inches) reactions
• Men's anger tied to rejection vs personal responsibility
• Politics baked in; red/blue pill props on set
• Show prints money; Colette still gets online backlash
• Preference for real help over grievance-weaponizing
• Why the audience is large: loneliness and resentment
• Claims denying wage gap/minimizing violence deemed absurd
• Panel self-ratings; no "7" rule; some rate very low
• Colette self-rates: 9 for her age; 6 vs 20-year-olds
• '90s shock-jock comparisons without the wit
• Colette vs Alex Stein's "confidence = sex bait" jab
• Rebuttal: confidence from life experience, not sex hunting
• Call-out of sexism tying older women's value to desirability
• Hosts profit from outrage and controversy
• Howard Stern contrast: provocative yet self-aware/comedic
• Red-pill appeal to disillusioned young men explained
• Empathy for average men squeezed by online ideals
• Men judged to be tall/rich/successful; women also objectified
• Apps amplify superficiality, comparison, and loneliness
• Both genders warped by algorithmic expectations
• Real attraction grows via shared humor and real-world contact
• Screen time erodes social skills and confidence
• Many alpha hosts read as insecure/inexperienced
• Brian Atlas cited as projecting frustration
• Submissiveness/obedience rejected as outdated
• If chivalry demands submission, decline it
• Strong women valued; confident men welcome equals
• Hosts' wives as assertive, capable partners
• Balance independence with care-taking; avoid dependency
• Strong partners still want to feel cared for
• Healthy dynamic = mutual giving and receiving
• Is oppression of women ongoing? Colette: yes; others: no
• Sex work: agency vs oppression debated
• "Men must protect women" expectation questioned under equality
• Traditional roles still shape modern instincts
• Beliefs formed by societal conditioning and generation
• Manners vs obligation: kindness without transaction
• Some men now demand trades for gestures—criticized
• Example: fake "submissive ex" video to sway viewers
• Jealousy fueling resentment toward non-submissive partners
• Submission vs genuine care distinguished
• Acts should come from love, not hierarchy
• Mutual care ≠ loss of voice; submission does
• Colette jokes her husband might prefer more "traditional"
• 1950s domestic role bit (slippers, whiskey, pipe)
• Do men secretly want traditional again? Depends
• Global and personal preferences vary widely
• Respect for independent, confident women who lead
• Relationships should rest on choice and mutual respect
• Nostalgia for the 1950s called unrealistic, media-made
• Real mid-century marriages weren't TV fantasies
• Grandfather's orphanage/WWII story: hardship breeds empathy
• Past resilience vs today's victim mindsets in men's movements
• Relief that Colette's appearance ended safely
• Plug: The Cost of Quiet — preorder info
• Contact: ColetteJaneFair.com; anonymous questions welcome
• Like/subscribe; plan to tackle listener emails next episode

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