In this wildcard episode of Permission Slip-ups, Dave and Kate return to a word that quietly shapes so many of our choices: desire.
What does it really mean to want something?
When does desire energize us — and when does it begin to create suffering?
Inspired by earlier conversations and lived experience, this episode explores the space between joy and struggle, ambition and attachment, wanting and being. Dave reflects on how desire can become heavy when it's rooted in perfection or outcomes, while Kate offers a gentler lens — reminding us that joy, desire, and even suffering exist on a spectrum, and none of them are meant to be avoided.
Together, they sit with questions like:
Is desire selfish — or can it be an act of service?
What happens when we stop chasing a "perfect" life?
How do presence, gratitude, and non-attachment reshape what we want?
This isn't an episode about finding answers.
It's about slowing down long enough to notice what's driving us.
A conversation for anyone who has ever thought, "I want more,"
and felt called to understand why.
Listen in, reflect deeply, and give yourself permission to explore what truly fuels you.
