Join Daryl Davis, an American R&B and blues musician and activist who has convinced dozens to leave the KKK. Jeff Schoep, once the leader of America's largest neo-Nazi organization, has become a global advocate for peace and human rights. This podcast emphasizes the value of listening with empathy, staying engaged despite discomfort, and speaking one's truth. The speakers highlight how genuine understanding emerges not from agreement, but from curiosity and respect for diverse perspectives.
Check out Daryl Davis's book The Klan Whisperer and the 2016 Documentary: Accidental Courtesy: Daryl Davis, Race and America and Jeff Schoep's book American Nazi: From Hope to Humanity. https://jeffschoep.com/
Time Stamp:
00:00 Introduction and Guest Backgrounds
03:00 Daryl's Early Experiences with Integration and Racism
07:00 Jeff's Involvement with Extremism
10:00 Understanding Recruitment & Change in Hate Groups
14:00 Challenging Perceptions and Reality
19:00 Gradual Change and Staying Hopeful
24:00 Core Human Values and Diplomacy
29:00 Processing Transformational Change
33:00 Facing the Past and Making Amends
38:00 Dehumanization, Protest, and Recruitment Dynamics
44:00 How Hate Groups Use Violence and Publicity
49:00 Advice, Impact on Youth, and Legacy of Change
54:00 Power of Relationships and Closing Thoughts
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