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During academic breaks, we sometimes broadcast special editions of the Counselling Tutor Podcast. In this special edition – broadcast in the summer break of 2021, as the COVID-19 continues but is no longer at its peak – Rory Lees-Oakes speaks to Kelly Budd, Head of Qualifications at the Counselling and Psychotherapy Central Awarding Body (CPCAB), the UK's only awarding body run by counsellors for counsellors. Kelly announces exciting news about the CPCAB's plans for how its courses will be delivered in future.