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Nobody's perfect--even people who are committed to social justice. But activist Leslie Mac has been noticing a pattern when mistakes are inevitably made by people who consider themselves allies.

She recently described it in a piece on Medium:

Leslie says it's not the fact that people make mistakes--it's the way they react when being called out on those mistakes that's problematic.

She says when someone does something racist, sexist, etc., they shouldn't make their response and apology all about their own feelings. They should center the feelings of the people they harmed.

Leslie joined us to tell us more, and give us her tips for how allies can get it right. 

We also talk to Amber Duke and Soha Saiyeed with the ACLU of Kentucky. Earlier this year, they traveled to Montgomery, Alabama for the opening of the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice (more commonly known as the Lynching Memorial).

They share what it was like to visit the memorial, which features Kentucky prominently, because of the number of lynchings that happened here.