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JK Rowling published a controversial essay last week that some labeled transphobic while others hailed as a a well reasoned defense of women's rights. There is a movement among feminists that want to push back against what they consider radical redefinition of sex and gender. They call their movement "gender critical", while their opponents label them "TERFs", trans exclusionary radical feminists. A.Ron has on Nat from the UK to debate the merits of the gender critical movement and more.