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Two Zionist Jews discuss:

"Until Israeli politics can radically reorient itself, it’s time to construct a vision of Jewishness that’s independent of the state that pretends to act on our behalf. It’s time for Jews to reclaim the moral mantle of our ancestors. For the Palestinians, but also for the future of the Jewish people, it’s time for Jews to abandon Israel."

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Josh Szeps is the host of the podcast Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps.