In this episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with Ryan Dahl about Deno 2.0, its new features and use of web standards, and how it seamlessly integrates with popular frameworks like Next.js. Ryan shares insights on the motivations behind Deno’s creation, its emphasis on simplicity and security, and offers his take on the evolving JavaScript ecosystem.
Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
00:34 What is Deno?
05:08 Deno 2.0
07:49 NPM compatibility
09:40 What parts of Node aren’t doable in Deno?
11:22 Do we need a hard break from Require?
13:51 Package management
16:25 Security and performance benefits of Deno
20:57 Brought to you by Sentry.io
20:57 Thoughts on Bun and Node additions
26:25 Ryan’s favorite Deno projects Lume
Fresh
webgpu-examples
gpucraft minecraft clone + deno + webgpu
gpucraft example
Shaderplay
Orillusion
28:42 Will we ever see a unified file system API?
31:49 Typescript
36:12 Jupyter Notebooks with Deno Polars
39:11 AI and WASM in JavaScript
42:01 Deno 2.0 features and future
43:08 Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs
Sick Picks Ryan: McCarren Park
Shameless Plugs Ryan: https://deno.com/enterprise
Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads
Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads
Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads
Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads