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Megan Devine is a pioneer in the fields of grief support and emotional intelligence. Since 2009, she’s been writing and talking about grief and love, shaking up our culture’s ideas about both all along the way. In this episode we discuss these topics along with her newest book,It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand
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In This Interview, Megan Devine and I Discuss…

Her book, It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand

That the way we deal with grief in our culture is broken

How grief is a no-win situation for everyone

The fact that we don’t like to talk about grief

How we carry losses with us

The myth that happiness is the same as health and that if you’re not happy, you’re doing something wrong

That some things cannot be fixed, they can only be carried

How cruel it is to say everything happens for a reason and that you create your reality

Our limited tools for going through difficulty

Victim blaming

How we can’t be 100% safe

That we aren’t 100% in control of how we react to things

If we think grief is a problem to be solved, all of our tools will fail us

Sadness isn’t a problem either

How you can’t “get over it and put it behind you”

The importance of having pain Heard, Honored and Validated

The power of listening and curiosity

Thinking of pain as an experience to be tended

The things we have to live through and endure, that we can’t escape

Making these difficult things gentler on us

Decreasing suffering inside of grief

Wellness vs. worseness

Paying attention to the cause and effect of things

The hierarchy of grief

Treating compassion as the abundant resource that it is

Hope

Meeting people where they are

Asking: Do you want empathy or a problem solved right now?

Asking: What do you need in this moment? What would feel useful right now?

You can’t heal someone’s pain by trying to take it away from them

The importance of showing yourself kindness

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