In this episode of the Mindfulness Exercises Podcast, Sean Fargo speaks with Ariel Garten—neuroscientist, innovator, and co-founder of Muse, the brain-sensing meditation device.
Blending neuroscience, mindfulness, and entrepreneurship, Ariel offers a unique perspective on how we can train the mind to become more aware, focused, and resilient.
She shares the science behind brainwave activity in meditation, the difference between concentration and mindfulness, and how real-time feedback can deepen self-awareness.
Together, Ariel and Sean explore the intersection of technology and mindfulness and how tools like Muse can support practitioners and teachers in cultivating consistency and insight.
CHAPTERS
00:00 — Intro01:52 — What Muse Measures in the Brain05:20 — Concentration vs. Mindfulness09:45 — How Biofeedback Deepens Practice13:18 — Brainwave States in Meditation16:40 — Why Real-Time Feedback Matters20:33 — The Role of Self-Compassion24:09 — Using Muse Without Judgment28:01 — Tech + Mindfulness for Behavior Change32:16 — Insights from Data-Driven Practice36:44 — Ariel’s Vision for the Future of Muse40:00 — Closing Reflections & Where to Learn More
💡 Learn more about Ariel's work Muse - https://www.ChooseMuse.com/Mindfulness
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