In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, host GG Hawkins sits down with Matt Enlow and Oren Kaplan, the prolific directing duo and co-hosts of the long-running Just Shoot It podcast. With nearly 500 episodes under their belt, Matt and Oren dive deep into the realities of sustaining creative careers, the value of community, and how accountability and consistency have fueled their podcast and filmmaking journeys. They share behind-the-scenes stories, including how they met, what keeps them motivated, and how they've adapted to the evolving industry landscape. Whether you're a working filmmaker or just starting out, this episode is packed with wisdom, humor, and hard truths.
In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss...
How Matt and Oren first met and launched Just Shoot It
Why having a podcast creates built-in accountability and industry access
The highs and lows of directing careers—and why consistency matters more than perfection
Why they think proximity, community, and cross-pollination matter more than ever
How becoming a parent helped them find focus and efficiency in their careers
Social skills, small talk, and how to navigate networking as a filmmaker
Why it's time to embrace multi-hyphenate creative lives—and stop waiting for the cavalry
Memorable Quotes:
“If you're not getting work, just make your own stuff... but the important part is you have to share it.”
“We are not going back to the boom times. The cavalry isn't coming... and that's okay.”
“You're taking people into your career—whether they know it or not.”
“We're playing pro ball. This isn't the same sort of game our parents played.”
Guests:
Matt Enlow
Oren Kaplan
Resources:
Just Shoot It Podcast
I Really Love My Husband Tickets
Scriptnotes Podcast
Lessons from the Screenplay
Every Frame a Painting
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