In this conversation, Sally Z and Dayna Del Val explore the complexities of motherhood, the emotional journey of parenting and the importance of supporting children in their identity journeys. They reflect on personal experiences, the significance of Mother’s Day and the challenges of navigating the evolving relationship with their children as they grow. The discussion also delves into the concept of ‘brave middle ground’ in parenting, emphasizing the need for honesty and discomfort in fostering growth and understanding. In this conversation, Sally Z and Dayna Del Val explore the complexities of identity, particularly in the context of being transgender in today’s society. They discuss the challenges faced by transgender individuals, the importance of visibility and representation and the societal norms that shape our understanding of gender. Sally shares her personal journey as a parent of a transgender child, highlighting the emotional and practical aspects of navigating this experience. The conversation also touches on the misconceptions surrounding transgender individuals, particularly in relation to safety and bathroom access, and emphasizes the need for acceptance and understanding. Ultimately, the discussion is a call to embrace authenticity and courage in the face of societal challenges. For more information, including the full transcript, please visit
