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Cloud costs are rising—and for many companies, FinOps isn’t enough.

In this episode of Gaining the Technology Leadership Edge, Mike speaks with John Julia of Pinnacle AI about how artificial intelligence is being used to modernize cloud environments and bring runaway cloud spending under control. John explains why many organizations enter the cloud expecting savings, only to discover unpredictable costs tied to legacy architectures and inefficient designs.

The conversation breaks down Pinnacle AI’s approach to cloud modernization using AI and machine learning. Instead of manually evaluating hundreds of cloud services, designing architectures, estimating costs, and writing infrastructure code, Pinnacle AI’s platform automates the entire process—from workload ingestion to Terraform generation—acting as a virtual solution architect.

Beyond cloud optimization, the episode explores how AI-driven data science and computer vision are being applied in gaming, sports, manufacturing, education, and injury prevention. John explains how analytics progresses from descriptive to predictive to prescriptive—and why pattern recognition across massive data sets unlocks insights humans can’t see.

This episode is essential listening for technology leaders struggling with cloud costs, legacy architectures, or understanding how AI can deliver tangible business value beyond experimentation.