In this bonus episode, Barry talks with Judge Frederic Block about mandatory minimums and prosecutorial immunity, two practices that Judge Block opposes. Zachary Hoskins explains the differences between cardinal and ordinal proportionality, or the difference in trying to figure out what punishments fits this particular crime, versus what ranking crimes to make sure their punishments don't cross any rankings. Barry then asks Thea Johnson about how fictional pleas affect power differentials between prosecutors and defendants, and how one state judge tried to do a study of fictional pleas, and concluded that they must be pervasive but uncountable.
