In this episode, Chaz Wolfe welcomes return guest Justin Dawson. They delve into transitioning from hands-on roles to administrative positions, and the importance of working on the business rather than in it. The duo discusses the benefits of reassessing business strategies and Justin shares his unique approach to financial recovery. They also explore the issue of avoiding responsibilities in business and reflect on advice to their past selves. The episode concludes with an introduction to the Gathering the Kings initiative.