In this episode, Hersh Rephun chats with Kerry Shaw Brown and Martin Pazzani about their Unbound Spirits and Milstrom bourbon brands. They discuss the brands' origins, their targeted premium bourbon consumer, and the launch. They also delve into brand creation's challenges, such as risk-taking and competition, and their marketing strategies. The conversation wraps up with a look at their daily operations and a glimpse at an upcoming product launch.